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Another interesting misinterpertation!!! The Horby Island Eagle has NOT been Shot!

I guess one has to chalk up to human behavior, or misbehavior, the inabitlity of some people to look for problems, create them from nothing, or read something bad into whatever they want. I had thought earlier that we shoud save the total Forum responses, not just for the interesting, thought provoking and sincere questions, but perhaps for the exceptional few who are not at all interested in the eagles, their incredibly facinating behaviior or questions about their environment, but seem hell bent on finding something to bicker about or distort -- for whatever reasons their contorted minds have conjured up. Could these demented souls be more interesting than the eagles? No -- I go for the eagles.

Here is Doug Carricks simple comment on the latest misunderstandings or bs ! He still has the live feed from the camera coming into his livingroom and knows of what he speaks.
Cheers
David Hancock

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FROM : DOUGLAS CARRICK on Hornby Island Date: August 9, 2006 10:25:16 PM CDT

I was informed about the BB shot rumour for the first time just 20 minutes ago. There is absolutely no truth to it. One problem about being shot in the nest is that they just don't use the nest any more. More important, I have seen them in surrounding perch trees every day up to July 29. On July 30, they went on migration.

I have been watching them particularly closely this year because so many people would be interested in the life of these "senior eagles" and I visualize myself as becoming an eagle geriatrician. Over the years, I have observed the average migration date for Hornby eagles is mid-August. But delays in migration occur in the case of late-hatching and late-flying eaglets. About six years ago, the eagle family two miles down the beach, which I call the "Dysfunctional Family", had an eaglet that fell from the nest too early and was ever so slow to learn to fly. Because of this, the family didn't migrate until mid September.

On the other hand eagles not burdened with offspring generally leave earlier. This year, I was watching closely to confirm just that. And they did leave earlier. All this is to say, that I have been watching the eagles especially closely this year and that they were managing very well until the date of migration. Neither eagle was shot by a BB, I can assure you.

Doug

PS -- NOTE: this is the bald eagle pair that so valiantly sat their two infertile eggs. We are hopng that they will do better next year. =======================


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Notes on Copyright Issues: See Creative Commons Laws

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Comment regarding the Copyright issue.

Most people seem to have understood Richard's comments but a few misunderstood them.

Hancock's position: First, I am and was pleased that people have followed the Live CAM so assiduously. I was also thrilled to learn that many of you were copying and storing segments of the video for your enjoyment. What Richard was stating is that under the copyright laws of a Creative Commons you are at liberty to do this.

What is not allowed is that people take a copyrighted item and re-display it on another site that is collecting advertising. In short they are making money off someone else's copyright. Because we did not originally offer an option for people to post their favorite selections on our site some people have posted them elsewhere. This re-posting on another site does not confer copyright to them or take it away from the rightful copyright holder. We still hold the copyright to these videos or any derivatives. This permission was given until we opened up a posting site on the Hancock Wildlife Channel site. This option is now available through the www.Hancockwildlife.org site and now we are asking the video clip makers to post their captures on our site and to remove them from the commercial sites

Please watch our site for updated posting on both the Hornby Island and Sidney bald eagles. We will be posting the 2005 and 2006 season summary for all to see shortly.

Please enjoy our beautiful birds.

David Hancock


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Perspective Changes over Time -- well MAYBE? Maybe Not!

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UPDATED --- Aug 5th Posting:

Now, Aug 5, 2006, it is interesting to point out that what was said then (April 8/06) -- is largely the same now, except that the cost of the computers and 60+ hard drives, Richard's travel and costs for over 6 months, not to mention my travel costs and time, have greatly extended our initial investment. --- read more ---->>>


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Do You Have a Summary of Eagle Data?

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Nesting Eagle Data Needed: --- A couple of Requests ---:

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HI Live Eagle CAM followers:

I would love to post on our site some summary data and it has been suggested that several of you might well have been keeping notes:

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Bald Eagle Biology -- Misc Items from Questions;

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Post Fledging Support of Juveniles by Adults:

In the wilderness areas in the 1960's my studies showed that the adults first quite bringing food to the nest about the 12 th week. After 2 -4 days most of the young then fledged -- often flying off to land on the beach where the adults could be see eating. After 5 -10 days of this the adults simply left - and 3 5- days later the chicks left.

I almost never saw a wilderness eagle bring food to the nest once the chick(s) had fledged. My suspicion is that in wilderness areas, almost all beach areas and perch trees are considered safe landing and feeding areas. In the more urban areas, where surrounding roads, lawns, sidewalks or even beaches are frequented by people and dogs or cars, that the nest site becomes singularly more secure and gets used for the continued feeding of the young.

Also in the wilderness areas, the common number of young per nest is ONE -- in the urban areas it is TWO! I already see a general trend here. In the urban areas where there is a tendency to feed the young in the 'secure' nest, this does not offer incentive for the second young to leave. The general tendency of the adults to bring food to the nest could hold both the first and second chick in the nest longer, increasing the time in the nest before fledging.

What will be the lasting impact on the survivability of the young once they leave the nest territory is a long way off being answered. Does staying around the nest and nest territory longer give advantage or disadvantage to the young? A good thesis topic!

David Hancock


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